The Product Pivot: Stories of career shifts, breakthroughs, and advice for PMs.
The Product Pivot is a podcast dedicated to sharing the real-life journeys of product management professionals.
Through candid conversations, we dive into the highs, the lows, and all the unexpected twists of product. Our stories are unfiltered, honest, and packed with lessons learned along the way.
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The Product Pivot: Stories of career shifts, breakthroughs, and advice for PMs.
The Product Pivot | Why AI Should Be Boring — And That’s a Good Thing
Everyone’s hyping AI like it’s a magic trick.
Aaron Kesler sees it differently — it’s just really good at boring stuff.
Now VP of Product at RozieAI, Aaron’s focused on solving the unglamorous problems that make real business impact. But his path to product didn’t start in a boardroom.
In college, he built a startup that got acquired. Then he realized he hated coding but loved talking to customers, so he walked away from tech completely and started working at Starbucks.
That’s where he learned the skill every great PM needs: listening.
That same curiosity pulled him back into tech, through SnapLogic’s biggest launches, and into leading product at RozieAI, proving that the best PMs chase problems worth solving.
We cover:
→ Why AI should be boring (and why that’s a good thing)
→ The difference between having AI and creating real value
→ How PMs can use AI to bridge creative and technical gaps
→ Why you should claim a job title once you’re already doing the work
This one’s sharp, honest, and packed with lessons for anyone building in AI or trying to break into product.
Aaron’s Links:
📖 Newsletter: “Become an AI Product Manager” on LinkedIn
